Planning and the extension

Friday, November 20th, 2009

As noted in the live blogging session from earlier today, Budget Officer Gayle Hall said in passing that the planning department isn’t mandated spending.

It was “food for thought,” she said. Could the department’s days be numbered? I doubt it.

But the issue of whether or not Brian Gilchrist, the current Executive Director of the county’s Cornell Cooperative Extension, can also serve as the planner in lieu of a new hire seems up in the air.

The idea certainly seems like it would make sense. Gilchrist is a former county planner. Current planner Chris DeBolt is leaving to become chief of staff for Assemblyman Tony Jordan, R-Jackson.

At the same time, the county budgeted $126,000 for the department in the tentative 2010 spending plan.

Gilchrist said Friday afternoon the extension can offer its suggestions, but wouldn’t provide “technical” expertise when it comes to planning goals.

“We’re not looking to become planners, we’re not looking to provide technical expertise,” Gilchrist said. “But we can provide a resource.”

You can read the final story on the supervisors meeting here.

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About the author: Nick Reisman has covered Washington County for The Post-Star since 2007. He can be reached at reisman@poststar.com

Live blogging the Board of Supervisors meeting

Friday, November 20th, 2009

The Washington County Board of Supervisors is considering a slew of budget amendments to the 2010 spending plan.

The Wash will provide a blow-by-blow update so please check back for updates.

11:55: The meeting’s over, please check back later for the story.

11:46: Rodger Hurley of Granville says the county needs a planning department if it wants to map out its future. “We should have a more specific development taking into account the developments taking place south of us,” Hurley said.

11:43: Hartford Supervisor Nancy Hall notes that the supervisors propse cuts and then back off every year. People don’t want high taxes, but they also want services, she said.

11:41: Jackson Supervisor Alan Brown notes again the board could appoint the extension director Brian Gilchrist to planner. Hall counters that the supervisors could possibly eliminate the planning department altogether because it isn’t mandated.

11:34: Granville Supervisor Rodger Hurley on the budget-making process:
“The budget process has been confused, at best, and at worst, a circus to rival what’s held in Madison Square Garden. I think if we get to this earlier in the year, we wouldn’t have this.”

11:25: Gayle Hall just pulled the budget. We’ll have to wait unitl next month.

11:22: Supervisors approved the abolishing of the deputy public works position, with Bob Banks of Dresden and John LaPointe of Putnam voting no.

11:19: The Adirondack Community College’s funding was approved out of the contingency budget. “Even though this is using some of our money, it’s an important thing to have funded,” said Cambridge Supervisor JoAnn Trinkle

11:04: Argyle Supervisor Bob Henke gave a brief speech stating that he was opposed using economic stimulus money to balance the budget.

10:58: Supervisors approved the bid for a light fixture project at the municipal center. The contract award: $74,337.

10:53:  Supervisors are passing a series of fairly run-of-the-mill resolutions that would, for instance, reassess unpaid water rents for Fort Edward.

10:47: And now we’re onto the resolutions.

10:44: Tim Havens, a Hudson Falls business owner, said the furloughs don’t go far enough. He said layoffs are a better option and would save the county far more money. On the transfer stations: “I just don’t think it’s a luxury that we can continue the way we are.”

10:39: Recycling advocate Tracy Frisch scolded supervisors for scaling back the funding at the transfer stations in the last several years. She continues to beat the drum that the facilities could be hit with another cut.

10:35: Alan Brown, the Jackson supervisor, wants to have some discussion on the budget anyway so the issues can be fleshed out by supervisors. The full board meets again on Dec. 4.

10:33: Reisman’s verdict: This budget isn’t getting passed today.

10:30: Don Wilbur says the board lacks $800,000 to reduce the tax levy. The board must also resolve issues with cutting the half-percent from each county department.

10:26: Gayle Hall, the budget officer, is passing out a document outlining the recent Finance Committee actions. She wants to schedule more budget meetings.

“We seem to be piecing together a document that doesn’t accomplish what we were tasked to do,” she said.

The document also includes a “what if” scenario of what would happen if the budget was approved with the finance panel’s suggestions.

10:18: The mortgage tax revenue as of Sept. 30 was $559,000 for the entire year. The county is $525,000 share is $515,000.

10:14: Supervisors hear a presentation from the Adirondack/Glens Falls Transportation Council. To view the long-range plan from the council, check out www.agftc.org.  

10:11: Audience check — about 45 people are attending the meeting, including Adirondack Community College President Ronald Heacock and Sheriff Roger Leclaire.

10:07: Dieter Drake of Cambridge gives a presentation on the 2010 Tour of the Battenkill cycling race. The event is a pretty big one in Washington County. The 2009 event was quite an undertaking for the county, he said, and thanked the supervisors for their support. For next year, a team from Great Britain is coming to the race and it will be held over two weekends, April 10 and April 17.

10:05 — A public hearing is being gaveled in for Local Law D, a measure that would lay down guidelines for publishing official notices in newspapers. Closed at 10:07. That was fast.

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6 Responses to “Live blogging the Board of Supervisors meeting”

  1. truth hunter Says:

    Bravos NamVet, by far your best posting in quite awhile, straight to the point with no wriggle room. Mr. Catellier should now be able to see the big picture a little clearer. Govt. at any level only has as much money as it’s residents, and I know for one I’m pretty tapped out!!

  2. namvet Says:

    How would people in the towns and villages like to keep losing their jobs because their employers went out of business or moved out of country or to another state? These employees were paid weekly or biweekly and now they have NO paycheck to pay their bills. Maybe they know what no paycheck feels like. And what about snowstorms? Can’t afford to pay the plow guy for plowing the driveway let alone the fuel and electric bills or the gas to go pay the bills or get groceries. Maybe Mr. Catallier has expressed the mindset of the typical bureaucrat. My job is more important than yours, government employees are just a little more important than the average private sector Joe and because I’m a part of the government and the government has the power to tax, tax the people so I can keep my job which includes a decent pay, insurance, 4 weeks vacation, sick days, personal days and don’t you have use of a vehicle to go back and forth to work? It’s time to do what needs to be done. Millions can lose their jobs and I bet you weren’t to concerned, but now maybe it’s your turn. Stop crying and be thankful you have a job.

  3. Nick Reisman Says:

    Truth hunter,

    I was told the county administrator would be the one to answer that question. For obvious reasons, he wasn’t available on Friday. I’ll try to track that information down though.

  4. Timothy M Catellier sr Says:

    How would the people in the towns and villages like not being able to pay their bills because thier employer cut their work days to 4 days per week?Rember county employees are paid biweekly so that means 8 day pay instead of 10 day pay about 400 dollars less now add a furlough day or maybe 2 with no pay try paying you monthly bills like that.And what about snow storms cant plow snow on a furlough day.Maybe you will know what a short paycheck feels like now do that all year long.But welfare keeps paying for everyone else.Guess id be better on welfare than working for washington county

  5. russ lacroix Says:

    the board has to cut cut cut i do not care where the cuts are made but the county budget has to has to get back to reality and on a solid footing so if the ecomecy goes down hill from here we should survive in decent shape. about every third person i talk to are fed up with the state county and school boards sucking us dry with no remorse and are looking to move to a better tax structure

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About the author: Nick Reisman has covered Washington County for The Post-Star since 2007. He can be reached at reisman@poststar.com

Supervisors to meet, vote on budget amendments

Friday, November 20th, 2009

The Washington County Board of Supervisors will meet at 10 a.m. Friday for their regular meeting.

But I have a feeling it won’t be a “regular” meeting. Supervisors are due to cast votes on a series of budget amendments including the funding solution to Cornell Cooperative Extension and are likely to discuss the furloughs.

It is doubtful the $112 million budget will be passed today; there’s still too much to be ironed out.

Also Friday, The Post-Star editorial board weighed in on the budget, giving a kudos to supervisors, but also asked them to push for further cuts.

The Wash will have some live updates from the meeting later today.

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About the author: Nick Reisman has covered Washington County for The Post-Star since 2007. He can be reached at reisman@poststar.com

The choice: two days off or layoffs

Thursday, November 19th, 2009

County Budget Officer Gayle Hall was pretty clear on Thursday that the public employees’ unions have two choices: take two days off in 2010 without pay or suffer layoffs.

Hall, the Fort Ann supervisor, has not derived how many jobs the furlough plan would save. But the cost savings to the county would be nearly $200,000.

Union representatives have indicated that the plan would have to be approved during contract negotiations and cannot simply be done by decree. Supervisors have also heard the furlough angst from rank-and-file employees with many saying they are against the idea.

You can read the story on the issue here.

As mentioned in the story, furloughs have been used by both private and public entities during this Great Recession to cut costs without cutting people. But of course, there’s the human factor to consider.

The New York Times had a pretty interesting article back in June on furloughs for public employees in California. Essentially, the paper found that while the employees are technically not being paid for the day, depleted staffing has made taking those days off difficult, if not impossible.

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  1. mac 406 Says:

    Yes!! furlough the BOS. Did they get a raise?? They shouldn’t.This wiil help and the new people who were elected over their big promises to cut spending should not get a raise because they don’t know the job and the will get furloughed too. Excellent. Wash co is getting to be as bad as NY state. Can’t finish the budget on time. If the budget is not completed by_________ ????? the 2009 budget will stand. Anyone know??? IRI ALL??

  2. cg57 Says:

    albert and Fedup, the money returned to towns is used to keep the town tax levy’s down, so its not like you aren’t getting the benefit from it. Its not money just given away, the towns have to report it as revenue in their budget which is used to offset expenses. If you have a problem with towns giving raises, bring it up with your local town board, but I don’t have a problem with the county sharing some of the sales tax revenue with the towns.

  3. albert Says:

    The one million dollars in County money that is doled out to Towns is total BS. This needs to be stopped.

  4. Whitehaller Says:

    I’m all for helping out my fellow county workers. I don’t want anyone to lose their job. BUT… here’s reality… most of us employees are also tax payers. So… I don’t get a raise, am forced to take off two days without pay, HUGE increase to my health insurance… and I still pay the HUGE Washington County taxes! YES, I’m very happy I still have a job, but honestly I have a home, family & bills… I cannot afford two days without pay. I’m not exactly making big bucks here! It’s gonna hurt!

  5. namvet Says:

    The same political parties who gave us the problems are going to fix them? Their big brothers in Albany make laws that are mandated ( dictated since they were passed without our concent ) and then the little brothers cry about how they can’t do anything about it. Good cop, bad cop act. Do the Highway Foreman in Wash. Cty.still get paid from the time they get a phone call from County Control to go into service and then when “done”,wait till their in bed before they call County Control to say they’re are out of service. At time and a half, not bad.
    Making coffee, putting wood on the stove before leaving and then stopping to buy goodies before going home. All on taxpayer money. Too bad so many foreman are buddies of the supervisors and this kind of waste is NEVER mentioned that I know of. Please set me straight.

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About the author: Nick Reisman has covered Washington County for The Post-Star since 2007. He can be reached at reisman@poststar.com

A plan to help Cornell Cooperative Extension?

Wednesday, November 18th, 2009

Jackson Supervisor Alan Brown floated the idea of having Cornell Cooperative Extension take over the duties at the county Planning Department.

The idea was given a chilly reception by county Budget Officer and Fort Ann Supervisor Gayle Hall who said she would not support the plan.

The 2010 tentative budget slices the agency’s budget by $282,500 and has been met with much protest by farmers, agriculture supporters and some supervisors.

Executive Director Brian Ghilchrist is the former director of the planning dpeartment. Current county planner Chris DeBolt is leaving to take a job with Assemblyman Tony  Jordan.

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2 Responses to “A plan to help Cornell Cooperative Extension?”

  1. namvet Says:

    We elected you supervisors to represent us, not to turn that responsibilty over to Cornell.
    What are you guys smoking and I sure hope the drinking is taking place after the meetings.

  2. Hells1 Says:

    Lets put money into tourism, lets call Washington County a agriculture county, and then lets cut Cornell Cooperative Extension.
    No Wonder so many supervisors got it handed to them. The only thing to tour in Washington County are our Farms and country side Gayle Hall should be reminded the people spoke bye bye!

About the author: Nick Reisman has covered Washington County for The Post-Star since 2007. He can be reached at reisman@poststar.com

It’s official: No salary increase for department heads

Wednesday, November 18th, 2009

The Board of Supervisors Finance and Personnel Committee Wednesday morning decided to pull a resolution that would have approved 2 percent pay raises for some department heads.

The affected positions include the commissioner of social services, the superintendent of public works, the county administrator, board of elections commissioners, treasurer and the Pleasant Valley Infirmary administrator.

The raises are set by local law for these positions.

Argyle Supervisor Bob Henke and Easton Supervisor John Rymph voted against the proposal because they wanted the full 17-member board to consider the issue.

 ”I always hate to have it done with less than half the supervisors here,” said Henke, who added he wasn’t in favor of the pay raises. “I’d rather see all the supervisors weigh in on it.”

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  1. albert Says:

    Dept heads had no COLA last year either.

    So it is already known that the Supervisors have a very low opinion of the dept heads anyway. All county employees should be required to take a vow of poverty or let the editorial board of the Post Star set their salaries.

  2. Nick Reisman Says:

    cg,

    “Symbolic” is probably the right word for it. The money was not included in the tentative budget, but this item had to be voted on or it would have gone to the full board on Friday. I’m not sure how much money this would save if the county would have paid them this 2 percent. I’m away from my desk now, but I’ll provide an update.

  3. cg57 Says:

    How much did this reduce the budget? Just wondering if its more a symbolic move or does it really address the problem.

About the author: Nick Reisman has covered Washington County for The Post-Star since 2007. He can be reached at reisman@poststar.com

Added to the budget debates: politics

Tuesday, November 17th, 2009

Everything, of course, is political.

Just ask your average high school student.

But one has to wonder if the race to replace outgoing Board of Supervisors Chairman Donald Wilbur will be an added ingredient to the 2010 budget discord.

Easton Supervisor John Rymph and Putnam’s John LaPointe are both running to succeed Wilbur, who lost his re-election bid against Democrat Sara Idleman.

Usually supervisors wait to get the onerous budget wrangling with over before dealing with the task of selecting a board chairman or chairwoman. Not so this year.

Rymph said in an interview this afternoon that he was surprised that LaPointe “jumped the gun” on campaiging for the post by quietly soliticing support from his fellow supervisors. LaPointe said that’s hogwash; this is how it’s always done. He also disputed the notion that he had begun seeking the post so soon after Wilbur’s defeat.

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  1. ireaditall Says:

    All politics aside, my deepest condolences to Mr. Kevin Hayes and his family. May Claudia rest in peace in the Arms of the Lord.

  2. albert Says:

    Lapointe twisted mileage voucher rules before.
    He does not have the integrity to be Chairman.

  3. ireaditall Says:

    It’s time to bring back some INTEGRITY to the Board of Supervisors…….John RYMPH for Chairman!!

About the author: Nick Reisman has covered Washington County for The Post-Star since 2007. He can be reached at reisman@poststar.com

Some history on the drive-in site

Tuesday, November 17th, 2009

The state Department of Environmental Conservation is finally cleaning up the old drive-in movie theater on Dix Avenue in Kingsbury.

The history of that site stretches back 30 years and the desire to clean it up, sell it and make some tax revenue from the land has been a decades-long struggle for Kingsbury.

Here’s some highlights found in The Post-Star archives:

Kingsbury first bought the property in 1993 and wanted to turn the area into an industrial park. But political watchdog and Fort Ann resident Bob Schulz along with Kingsbury resident Antonio Cerro argued that public money couldn’t be used to fund a private venture.

They sued and were able to defeat the plan.

The PCB contamination was discovered in 1996. Workers sprayed the chemical on the property to prevent dust storms at the theater. The property was also used as an RV dealership. A DEC engineer in 1997 said the top soil contamination, while mild, was enough to scare away potential buyers.

Later in 1997, further tests of the top soil discovered an even higher concentration of PCBs than previously believed. Tim Havens, the owner of Falls Farm and Garden, which is just up the road from the 14 acre site, nearly bought the property, but declined after the PCB survey results was revelaed.

So the land sat there until 2007, when the DEC issued a cleanup order. The soil removal is expected to take 8 weeks.

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About the author: Nick Reisman has covered Washington County for The Post-Star since 2007. He can be reached at reisman@poststar.com

Where to cut county spending?

Monday, November 16th, 2009

In the spirit of Nicole Kuba, a typist in the Department of Social Services, I throw the question to you folks out in blogland: Where would you cut the proposed $112 million county budget?

Kuba spoke before the Board of Supervisors on Friday with a set of proposals to reduce spending. They included cutting out taxpayer-funded luncheons for public employees and reducing costs for postage. She also urged the supervisors to not make further cuts in staffing, saying it could harm those who are in need of the county’s help.

Kuba was praised by subsequent speakers for giving some advice and identifying places to hold the line on spending.

Please provide your thoughts and comment below. If you need a cheat sheet on the budget, check out the tentative version and budget message on the county Web site here.

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24 Responses to “Where to cut county spending?”

  1. ghostgirl Says:

    Most people who work for the county also live in Washington county…therefore also are taxpayers contributing to their salaries. As for the luncheons, everybody makes a dish to bring in or the supervisors use their own money. It appears that Ms. Kuba could find better use of her time at work instead of writing blogs. After all every taxpayer in Washington County is paying her salary and don’t we want to make sure our tax dollars are being spent wisely?

  2. ghostgirl Says:

    Most people who work for the county also live in Washington county…therefore also are taxpayers contributing to their salaries. And if Ms. Kuba has time to write blogs while working then her position should be cut.

  3. ireaditall Says:

    Seems Ms. Kuba has plenty of time in her day to write blogs for The Post Star while at work. Seems her job could be eliminated or consolidated seeing she’s not “too” busy to blog.

  4. *howler* Says:

    I think the point Ms. Kuba made was that IF there were any county funded luncheons, those could be cut. That base was covered with what she said. No need to throw out assumptions.

  5. TaxedtoDeath Says:

    “Very Disappointed” when were employees asked to complete a survey. Some people never got them, probably conveniently.

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About the author: Nick Reisman has covered Washington County for The Post-Star since 2007. He can be reached at reisman@poststar.com

The story about the Harper’s story

Friday, November 13th, 2009

Tomorrow’s newspaper will carry a story about General Electric’s push back against a story that appears in the December issue of Harper’s Magazine.

And oh boy, what a push back.

The piece in Harper’s is critical of GE’s and the government’s attempts to cleanup the Hudson River, and quotes an environmental database expert who asserts that if an underground plume of chemicals is not addressed any gains made by the Fort Edward-based dredging of PCB-tainted sediment could be erased.

The company put up a Web site (it’s called “Harper’s Folly” get it?) this week refuting the piece, which was written by Columbia County freelance journalist David Gargill.

GE spokesman Mark Behan said in an interview Friday afternoon that the story is deeply inaccurate.

“We alerted them to mistakes and conclusions that we believed were not supported by any factual basis,” he said. “I exchanged many e-mails with them. I spent many hours on the phone and in person with them. They ignored most of the information they provided.” 

I spoke with Gargill this afternoon, who said he wasn’t surprised that the company is upset with the story. The company relies on semantics and false conclusions in refuting his story, he said.

“I would say that mostly they’re using semantics to try and refute what we state in very plain terms,” Gargill said.

He wasn’t surprised by the response, however.

“I think they’re going to fight like hell for anyone who wants a vigorous land-based cleanup of the site,” Gargill said.

Check back later for the full story.

Update: The story can be found here.

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About the author: Nick Reisman has covered Washington County for The Post-Star since 2007. He can be reached at reisman@poststar.com